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ICSTI: Opinion on A&I services and Open Access
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- From: Pete Strickland <ps@iucr.org>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:46:55 GMT
---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Received: from list.dtic.mil (list.dtic.mil [131.84.105.11]) by agate.iucr.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h0SBRd119284; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:27:40 GMT Received: from list (list.dtic.mil [172.16.105.11]) by list.dtic.mil (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0SBP9N04297; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 06:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from DTIC.MIL by DTIC.MIL (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 23497 for ICSTI-L@DTIC.MIL; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 06:25:09 -0500 Approved-By: crandall@DTIC.MIL Received: from dtics22.dtic.mil (dtics22.dtic.mil [131.84.1.29]) by list.dtic.mil (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with SMTP id h0S9HoN21697 for <icsti-l@dtics22.dtic.mil>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 04:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mails.dtic.mil ([131.84.1.19]) by dtics22.dtic.mil (NAVGW 2.5.2.12) with SMTP id M2003012804175030427 for <icsti-l@dtics22.dtic.mil>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 04:17:50 -0500 Received: from mel-rto3.wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-3.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.233]) by mails.dtic.mil (8.11.6+Sun/8.10.2/990419cac) with SMTP id h0S9Hod01954 for <ICSTI-L@DTIC.MIL>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 04:17:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mel-rta9.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.69) by mel-rto3.wanadoo.fr (6.7.015) id 3E0C33B50135BC14 for ICSTI-L@DTIC.MIL; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:17:49 +0100 Received: from your-z3mdcejeuo (193.248.87.124) by mel-rta9.wanadoo.fr (6.7.015) id 3E26DA8D006B622F for ICSTI-L@DTIC.MIL; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:17:49 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" X-Mailer: Opera 6.05 build 1140 Message-ID: <YVRLGRYTDBYT7608CRNMOJIFLJOM.3e36488f@your-z3mdcejeuo> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:08:31 -0000 Reply-To: mahons1@EIRCOM.NET Sender: ICSTI-L list <ICSTI-L@DTIC.MIL> From: Barry Mahon <mahons1@EIRCOM.NET> Subject: Opinion on A&I services and Open Access To: ICSTI-L@DTIC.MIL Precedence: list X-UIDL: T)N"!m3V!!`pK!!MG@"! Status: R X-Status: N An extract from the September 98 Forum, the list about Open Access: >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:57:59 +0000 From: Stevan Harnad <harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk> >Subject: Open Access and Abstract/Indexing Services > >Query from [identity removed]: Thank you for your continued and vigorous discussion on the current state of journal publishing. I am curious if you've published or presented an opinion on abstract and indexing services such as (the non-profit) BIOSIS and on online services such as (the for-profit) Web of Science/Knowledge (etc). Could you direct me to that position statement? If you have no stated position on such services, have you encountered a meritorious point of view that is worth reading and considering. My own expertise and interest is in primary content -- in particular, facilitating and hastening its open accessibility through institutional self-archiving. A new generation of secondary services will no doubt be built upon this open-access, full-text, OAI-tagged distributed database, harvested from research institutions the world over. There is already a growing list of OAI service providers: http://www.openarchives.org/service/listproviders.html So far, these are all free services, but there is nothing to prevent fee-based services from trying to find niches here, if they have a service that users find worth paying for (and that the free services cannot match or better). Among the large existing free and fee-based providers, Elsevier's Scirus http://www.scirus.com/html/scirus_service_provider.htm has already made a notable entry here, but with a free service, provided as a value-added for their fee-based products, including the toll-access full-texts that are not available yet in open-access. You ask me for my view on existing secondary services such as BIOSIS and ISI's Web-of-Science. They all provide valuable services, and obviously it is their value plus the user's ability to pay that decides which is best for whom today. In future, when all full-text journal articles are online and open-access, these services will no doubt have to upgrade and restructure themselves. Google already provides full- text inversion for all publicly available web documents. In my view, boolean search on inverted full-text plus the google ranking algorithm (based on link counts and authorities) will be hard to beat, but no doubt ever more powerful new tools will emerge. The open-access full-text corpus will also be fully citation-interlinked, so ISI too will have to work hard to stay ahead of the game. >Stevan Harnad The eventual outcome among secondaries is anyone's guess. The priority now is hastening open access for the primary corpus. ------------------------------------------------------- -- Best wishes Peter Strickland Managing Editor IUCr Journals ---------------------------------------------------------------------- IUCr Editorial Office, 5 Abbey Square, Chester CH1 2HU, England Phone: 44 1244 342878 Fax: 44 1244 314888 Email: ps@iucr.org Ftp: ftp.iucr.org WWW: http://journals.iucr.org/ NEWSFLASH: Complete text of all IUCr journals back to 1948 now online! Visit Crystallography Journals Online for more details
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