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My long weekend in Paris and, Pricing policy and archiving
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- From: Howard Flack <Howard.Flack@cryst.unige.ch>
- Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:33:58 GMT
ICSTI held its Winter 'committee' meetings in Paris over the last weekend and these were followed starting on Sunday afternoon and going on until Monday afternoon (just in time to escape from Paris before the public transport strikes) by a workshop on electronic archiving organised jointly with ICSU-Press (with a wider audience - they had to change venue because there would not have been enough room at the ICSU HQ). I turned up for most of the committee meetings and all of the workshop, and Yves came along to the workshop. There was much of interest in these meetings and I managed to chin wag with many of those present (OK its a small meeting). ICSTI will put their own reports concerning the meetings in due course on their web site and Yves has spontaneously volonteered to write his impressions to the EPC list server. In the meantime, and this is not a report of what was presented, I jotted down some of my own thoughts especially as all of this applies to the IUCr. ICSU Press (i.e. Roger Elliot) is intending to organise a conference on electronic publishing in science as a follow-up to the one in Paris in 1996 that Andre Authier helped organise. There was an interesting presentation and discussion of a report (the link is in the ICSTI web pages somewhere) by a working group of the American Society of Librarians and Publishers (wrong name) trying to define what is a scientific publication in the electronic age. Roger Elliot and Eric Sandewall (Lund) participated in the report. Apparently it was strongly criticisized in Nature but seemed to me full of eminently good sense when one thought about it enough. (This applies to the written report and not to some of Sandewall's further suggestions made in his presentation and private conversation.) Concerning the pricing policy that the IUCr should follow for its journals, it became clear to me that one (non-financial) underlying principle that one needs to get across by way of a pricing and distribution policy is that the 'normal' publication distribution technique is now on-line electronic, and anything else is maintained, at least for the present, for the feet draggers. This leads me to the following structure: Normal price: E-access only with annual CD-ROM Normal price + 10%: Print version only WITHOUT annual CD-ROM Normal price + 20%: E-access + print + annual CD-ROM E-access buys access to the current year and all available electronic back issues for the duration of the subscription. Afterwards nothing is available apart from the CD-ROM of the subscription year(s). The CD-ROM contains less functionality than the on-line versions - in particular, of course, the active links on literature citation do not work. The above structure needs a clear policy of the IUCr concerning archiving. Most fortunately for us, the AIP has gone through the whole process of generating a written document internally, discussing it at length and in depth, and in accepting a final document which is publicly available (on their web site). I have not read it yet in detail, but from the presentation by John T. Scott of AIP at the Paris meeting, this policy document will be an extremely valuable starting point for a discussion within the IUCr, EPC first and then the important committees later. When I find the time, I'll pull the AIP document off their site, modify it as I see necessary for the IUCr and then circulate the text for discussion on this list. (Even the biggest commercial scientific publisher present in Paris nows says that they will have a committment to e-archiving - two-years ago they were telling everyone who wanted to hear that it was not their problem.) The big National Libraries are really getting underway for e-archiving now. The BL (British Library) now accepts volontary deposition of electronic material for archiving and preservation. It has to be volontary because there is no legal framework for obligatory e-deposition. I could not get out of David Russon (the BL chief) whether the IUCr's journals were 'British' enough to be acceptable under this scheme. The country of the printing press or the legal seat of the publishing house seems not to be a valid criteria. The IUPAP representative to ICSTI (Ian Butterworth) said to me several times that the availability of cross-linking in physics journals between publishing houses (i.e. click on a reference citation and it takes you straight to corresponding journal article - even if you then have to pay for access) has had a tremendous effect in making e-journals acceptable to the community. The ISSN people have a pilot project for making stable (i.e. eternal) hyperlinks to articles and journals. Its a bit like the DOI but is limited to serial publications. The ISSN, of course, has the advantage of already have a metadata structure and some of the relevant metadata itself. H. -- Howard Flack http://www.unige.ch/crystal/ahdf/Howard.Flack.html Laboratoire de Cristallographie Phone: 41 (22) 702 62 49 24 quai Ernest-Ansermet mailto:Howard.Flack@cryst.unige.ch CH-1211 Geneva 4, Switzerland Fax: 41 (22) 702 61 08
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