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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_JxLMLVcVV289y65LFzheIw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -- Howard Flack http://www.unige.ch/crystal/ahdf/Howard.Flack.html Laboratoire de Cristallographie Phone: +41 22 702 62 49 24 quai Ernest-Ansermet mailto:Howard.Flack@cryst.unige.ch CH-1211 Geneva 4, Switzerland Fax: +41 22 702 61 08 --Boundary_(ID_JxLMLVcVV289y65LFzheIw) Content-type: message/rfc822 Return-path: <owner-icsti-l@DTIC.MIL> Received: from gate.unige.ch ([129.194.8.77]) by mbx.unige.ch (PMDF V6.0-24 #38753) with ESMTP id <0GE300MXHE58KO@mbx.unige.ch> for flack@mail.cryst.unige.ch (ORCPT howard.flack@CRYST.UNIGE.CH); Tue, 29 May 2001 12:22:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON.gate.unige.ch by gate.unige.ch (PMDF V6.0-24 #38753) id <0GE300E01E58I6@gate.unige.ch> for flack@mail.cryst.unige.ch (ORCPT howard.flack@CRYST.UNIGE.CH); Tue, 29 May 2001 12:22:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: from mails.dtic.mil (mails.dtic.mil [131.84.1.19]) by gate.unige.ch (PMDF V6.0-24 #38753) with ESMTP id <0GE300DO9E57N3@gate.unige.ch> for howard.flack@CRYST.UNIGE.CH; Tue, 29 May 2001 12:22:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: from list.dtic.mil (list.dtic.mil [131.84.105.11]) by mails.dtic.mil (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/990419cac) with ESMTP id GAA08740; Tue, 29 May 2001 06:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list (list.dtic.mil [172.16.105.11]) by list.dtic.mil (8.9.3+Sun/1.0) with ESMTP id GAA11770; Tue, 29 May 2001 06:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from DTIC.MIL by DTIC.MIL (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5913 for ICSTI-L@DTIC.MIL; Tue, 29 May 2001 06:20:14 -0400 Received: from mails.dtic.mil (mails.dtic.mil [131.84.1.19]) by list.dtic.mil (8.9.3+Sun/1.0) with ESMTP id KAA00514 for <icsti-l@list.dtic.mil>; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.cluster.oleane.net (smtp2.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.17]) by mails.dtic.mil (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/990419cac) with ESMTP id KAA23009 for <icsti-l@dtic.mil>; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mo002 (d5381dad.fsp.oleane.fr [213.56.29.173]) by smtp2.cluster.oleane.net with SMTP id f4SEsv276474 for <icsti-l@dtic.mil>; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:54:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:55:58 +0200 From: Stephanie de La Rochefoucauld <icsti@DIAL.OLEANE.COM> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ALPSP_Seminar_-_the_Future_of_Licensing_?= Sender: ICSTI-L list <ICSTI-L@DTIC.MIL> Approved-by: crandall@DTIC.MIL To: ICSTI-L@DTIC.MIL Reply-to: icsti@icsti.org Message-id: <MABBJCMBHGDPMFEFFKGOGEEOCBAA.icsti@dial.oleane.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <MABBJCMBHGDPMFEFFKGOGEEOCBAA.icsti@dial.oleane.com> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Dear Membership, The following is a report written by Executive Director Barry Mahon on the meeting he attended in London last Monday: ALPSP Seminar - the Future of Licensing - moving into the digital age. London, May 21 2001-05-21 This seminar, which you will recall was flagged by Gail a while ago, was well attended by a mix of publishers, librarians and people like me! The QUOTE of the DAY: "Access is more important than collection" By Desmond Reaney of Institute of Physics Publishing (IOPP), referring to the fact that preliminary evidence from the library consortia they have been dealing with shows that users make more use of materials to which their organisation did not have a subscription before they had access via a consortium. This information has been known anecdotally for some time but the data Desmond gave was interesting: in 1996 IOPP data showed that 33% of the document orders for their materials from consortia originated from organisations who had not had a subscription. Data from OHIONET for 1999 indicates that 52% of the requests from their members were for items from previously un-subscribed material. John Cox chaired the seminar which was roughly divided into customer views and publishers and others views and ideas on the ways forward. >From the customers side we had Mick Archer from Astra-Zeneca who gave, as expected, a big user's view - we want one point of contact, one feed, IP address access, pay by usage. However, he did say that they saw licenses as co-operation agreements, and offered incentives to publishers to join with them in meeting their needs. They also wanted specific Service Level Agreements (SLAs) with their suppliers. Then we heard from Andrew Braid of the BL who said the BL was reviewing its situation in the light of the inevitable changes that would occur in their services when the new EU Directive became part of UK law, but they wanted agreements from publishers on issues such as direct transmission of electronic copies to customers, and were working to provide security for publishers who were worried that users would retain or re-distribute the copy they received. Andrew also mentioned that, in their role as a deposit library, they were investigating a "guaranteed perpetual access" service for electronic materials deposited with them. I spoke to him later about this and he said they were negotiating with IBM for a large storage device similar to that used by the Netherlands National Library and they had as yet not decided on the "metadata" they would store but if the scheme was successful they would need to consider standards for a minimum data set. Finally for the customers we had Alicia Wise from the UK universities Joint Information Systems Committee who were developing DNER (Distributed National Electronic Resource) a huge project to provide a single point of entry to all data sets for over 180 Universities and 600 Colleges in the UK. They needed an unbundling of the paper and digital copy pricing schemes, flexible agreements and a response time for their users of less than 5 seconds at all times!! They had been using a modified version of the Publishers Association license model but they were disappointed that there was not more international endorsement of license arrangements, (which made me think that ICSTI's proposed collection of license agreements on the Web site would be a useful tool). >From the publishers side we had the experience of the British Medical Journal with their new license since January 2001 which basically unbundled the online version from the print version and instigated a usage fee based on user populations on their customer sites. The interesting thing about their approach was that they had no written agreements with the user sites the license was published on the BMJ web site and users signed up for this like you would with a piece of software when you install it. The BMJ has had very few problems with this approach which provides them with the essential flexibility they needed as they entered the new world of electronic delivery. Chris Beckett now of Ingenta (formerly of Catch Word) spoke about the opportunities for intermediaries in the electronic world. He acknowledged that the licensing regime made it easier for publishers to sign up with consortia directly but they saw opportunities in dealing with smaller publishers and dispersed user populations. They also saw opportunities as agents for publishers in licensing arrangements as well as providing technical facilities for the delivery of the electronic versions of their products. Desmond Reaney, besides raising the access v collection issue I mentioned at the beginning, also spoke of the need for smaller publishers to come together to develop their own consortia to deal with the demands of user consortia. He did indeed point out that there were risks in this, not least of the creation of a monopoly situation. He also revealed that 25% of the IOPP income was from consortia. One is tempted to think that the idea of the publishers consortium was to avoid being squeezed further by consortia buyers!! Finally we heard from Jens Bammel of the Publisher Licensing Society to talk about the role of the Reproduction Rights Organisations (RROs) in the new world of electronic distribution. He took the view, contrary to many, that there was job for them, especially as the distribution systems became more disintermediated and rights owners had many revenue streams. He also made the point that there was little or no "brand loyalty" in publishing and that users would go wherever the information was so that publishers could not expect to force customers to their site. He likened the present situation for rights owners as "selling snowflakes in the information blizzard" and that getting paid for your product would become more and more difficult. Overall my impression was that the world of specialist publishers was, if not obsessed, at least preoccupied with the arrangements for selling large quantities of content to large user groups. Given that the seminar was about licensing this is inevitable but it did strike me that if scientists went down the road of the "library of science" then there were going to be a lot of individual users and writers and the present development path would have to take account of them. It does seem that the individual or user in a small organisation was being left behind in these situations. It also struck me that the smaller more specialist publishers, especially those selling into the academic area who had not (yet) decided their policy vis a vis consortia etc., or who were in negotiation to have their content included in offers to consortia should be seriously examining the present state of the art and the likely changes. As in so many of the developments under way it behooves them to be careful not to make arrangements which might rebound on them later. The other question that arose in my mind was how licenses would deal with the increasing trend for inter-working between private and public bodies in research. Many of the agreements did not allow a mix and match situation like this, where, for example, academic researchers worked alongside private sector people and had vice versa and had access to documents available under the various consortia agreements but in different environments. There is the inevitable temptation for the private sector people to hold back their use until they were in the "cheaper" academic environment. Sally Morris, Secretary general of ALPSP, said the speakers slides would be available shortly on the ALPSP web site www.alpsp.org if you are interested in more details. --Boundary_(ID_JxLMLVcVV289y65LFzheIw)--
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